I will interact with you on this issue, but only if you deal with the text and post that I have already done. Read all the post and then tell me how I misinterpreted this passage.

Do you pray and serve Jesus and claim that Jesus is God, the second
person in the “Holy trinity.” However, the very Bible which is used as
a basis for knowledge about Jesus and as the basis for doctrine within
Christianity clearly belies this claim. We urge you to consult your
own Bible and verify that the following conclusions are not drawn out
of context:

1. God is All Knowing…..but Jesus was not
When speaking of the day of judgment, Jesus clearly gave evidence of a
limitation on his knowledge when he said, “but of that day and hour
knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in Heaven, neither the
son, but the Father.” Mark 13:32, and Matt 24:36. But God knows all.
His knowledge is without any limitations. That Jesus, of his own
admission, did not know when the day of judgment would be, is clear
proof that Jesus is not all-knowing, and that Jesus is therefore not
God.

2. God is All Powerful…..but Jesus was not
While Jesus performed many miracles, he himself admitted that the
power he had was not his own but was derived from God when he said,
“Verily, verily I say unto you, the Son can do nothing of himself, but
what he seeth the Father do…” St. John 5:19. Again he said, “I can of
mine own self do nothing: as I hear I judge: and my judgment is just;
because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which
hath sent me.” St. John 5:30. But God is not only all-powerful, He is
also the source of all power and authority. That Jesus, of his own
admission, could do nothing on his own is clear proof that Jesus is
not all-powerful, and that therefore Jesus is not God.

3. God does not have a God…..but Jesus did have a God.
God is the ultimate judge and refuge for all, and He does not call
upon nor pray to any others. But Jesus acknowledged that there was one
whom he worshipped and to whom he prayed when he said, “l ascend unto
my Father and your Father, and to my God and your God.” St. John
20:17. He is also reported to have cried out while on the cross, “My
God, my God why hast thou forsaken me?” Matt 27:46. If Jesus were God,
then couldn’t this be read, “Myself, myself why hast thou forsaken
me?” Would that not be pure nonsense? When Jesus prayed the Lord’s
prayer (Luke 11:2-4), was he praying to himself? When in the garden of
Gethsemane he prayed, “O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup
pass from me: Nevertheless not as I will but as thou wilt.” Matt
26:36-39. Was Jesus praying to himself? That Jesus, of his own
admission and by his own actions, acknowledged, worshipped, and prayed
to another being as God is clear proof that Jesus himself is not God.

4. God is an invisible spirit…..but Jesus was flesh and blood
While thousands saw Jesus and heard his voice, Jesus himself said that
this could not be done with God when he said. “No man hath seen God at
any time.” St. John 1:18. ‘”Ye have neither heard His voice at any
time nor seen His shape.” St. John 5:37. He also said in St. John
4:24. “God is a spirit and they that worship him must worship him in
spirit and in truth.” That Jesus would say that no one had seen or
heard God at any time, while his followers both saw and heard him, is
clear proof that Jesus was not God.

5. No one is greater than God and no one can direct Him but Jesus
acknowledged someone greater than himself whose will was distinct from
his own.
Perhaps the clearest indication we have that Jesus and God are not
equal, and therefore not one and the same, come again from the mouth
of Jesus himself who said in St. John 14:28, “My Father is greater
than I.” When someone referred to him as good master in Matt 19:17,
Jesus responded, “Why callest thou me good? There is none good but
one, that is God…” Furthermore, Jesus drew clear distinctions between
himself and God when he said, “I proceeded forth and came from God,
neither came I of myself but He sent me.” St. John 8:42. Jesus gave
clear evidence of his subordination to God, rather than his equality
with God,when he said in Luke 22:42, “not my will but thine be done”
and in St. John 5:30, “I seek not mine own will but the will of the
Father which hath sent me.” That Jesus would admit that he did not
come into the world on his own initiative but was directed to do so,
that he would acknowledge another being as greater than himself, and
that he would negate his own will in deference to affirming the will
of another, give clear proof that Jesus is not the Supreme One and
therefore Jesus is not God.

Let see the warning by Jesus
Mark 7:6-13 (New King James Version)

6 He answered and said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you
hypocrites, as it is written:

‘ This people honors Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.
7 And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’[a]

8 For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of
men[b]—the washing of pitchers and cups, and many other such things
you do.”
9 He said to them, “All too well you reject the commandment of God,
that you may keep your tradition.

10 For Moses said, ‘Honor your
father and your mother’;[c] and, ‘He who curses father or mother, let
him be put to death.’[d] 11 But you say, ‘If a man says to his father
or mother, “Whatever profit you might have received from me is
Corban”—’ (that is, a gift to God), 12 then you no longer let him do
anything for his father or his mother, 13 making the word of God of no
effect through your tradition which you have handed down. And many
such things you do.”

May Almighty God the Creator bless every one of us who seek the truth.

AMEN

“The Way of Truth is evil spoken of” because of pagan “catholicism” and her harlot pagan “christian” daughters ;-( Their “imag”ined “jesus christ” is not The Messiah! It was some five hundred years ago that they named one head of their three-headed pagan “god”, “jesus”, during a time that has been called the “reformation”. Prior to that time there was no “j” sound in the english language…….period…….

Yet the “reformation” was an aptly named time! For it was a time when “catholicism” birthed her harlot “christian” daughters ;-( Her “christian” daughters are of her substance ;-( Her substance was merely “reformed” so that her “christian” daughters might appear a bit differently outwardly, yet inwardly they remained liken unto their pagan harlot mother ;-(

“christianity” is but the byproduct of the fornicative relationship pagan “catholicism” has always had with “the god of this world”, he who is “the father of lies”, he who is “the angel of light”, ‘d’evil spirit that rules over this wicked world ;-(
All religious systems, muslin, jewish, buddhist, catholic, christian ,,etc,, are Anti-Messiah!

Religious systems of this world, all alike they are,
Their captives have fought, killed and died, both near and far ;-(

And then once a week, or multiple times a day they may pray,
Yet as hypocrites they begin each new day ;-(

Days that are filled with deceit and lies,
For in a “religious system” Truth can not abide ;-(

And so the fruit of death is born of religion’s way,
Because life is but a pawn in the wicked game they play ;-(

Faith will not create a religious system!

The Messiah testified of a “wicked world”, and of His disciples being “in, not of, this world”.

John exhorted those who believed “to love not the world or it’s things” for “the WHOLE world is under the control of the evil one”!

And James testified, “whoever is a friend of this world is the enemy of GOD(Father, Great Spirit, Creator,,)”!

Those of this wicked world and it’s religious systems are destroying and perverting Creation and The Creator, Our Father, has promised that HE “will destroy those who are destroying and perverting HIS Creation(earth, air, water, creatures, Truth, Love, Peace, .etc.)”!

Hope is that there be those who take heed unto The Call of The Only True GOD and “Come out of her, MY people”!

All who heed GOD’s Call will exit “the broadway to destruction” and they will follow The Messiah on “The Way to The Truth of The Life”! They no longer will have their portion with the pagan “catholic” and “christian” LIES, or with any other religious system of this world.

The Messiah testified, “whoever lives and believes in Me(His Teachings and Life example) shall never die.” And then The Messiah questioned, “Do you believe this?” YES!

And you? Do you believe? Or do you believe in death?

While there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

For Miracles Do Happen! Thankfully so!

Hope is that there would be those who “come out” of the “strong delusion” that is the religious systems of this wicked world. Hope is that there would be those who believe in and receive of The Life. Hope is that there would be those who would “experience The Messiah and The Power that raised Him from among the dead”.

Hope is you will, or have experienced The Miracle that is receiving “a love of The Truth”.

All who have received “a love of The Truth” will have:

Peace, in spite of the dis-ease(no-peace) that is of this wicked world, for “the WHOLE world is under the control of the evil one” indeed and Truth! (1 John 5:19) ……. francisco

In the next couple of days I will be dealing with the above text to show how Jesus claim to forgive sins was also a claim to diety; one that he validated when actually healed the paralytic.

Also, I woudl point you to John 1, Colossians 1, and Hebrews 1 for more biblical information on the diety of Christ.

As for comparisons with Islam…

The fact that Christianity and Islam are monotheistic is plain to see. But the fact that both religions worship a different God is also obvious when you compare the text of the Bible with the Quran. And this doctrine of the Trinity, along with the Gospel of salvation by grace alone, are the two most glaring differences.

Stay tuned this week for more on this topic.

Mark 12:28-33 (New International Version)

The Greatest Commandment
28One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?”

29″The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.[a] 30Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’[b] 31The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[c]There is no commandment greater than these.”

32″Well said, teacher,” the man replied. “You are right in saying that God is one and there is no other but him. 33To love him with all your heart, with all your understanding and with all your strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself is more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices.”

Isn’t this what Islam teachs

112:1 SAY: “He is the One God:

112:2 “God the Eternal, the Uncaused Cause of All Being. [1]

112:3 “He begets not, and neither is He begotten;

112:4 “and there is nothing that could be compared with Him.

with best regards

I agree that many people see Amercian Christianity as the “gold standard.” However, that is not how I am referring to it. Maybe it would have been more helpful if I would have said “Christianity in America” rather than “American Christianity.” I know that there are a lot of negative things about the church here in the States what I want to know is: looking back over church history what has been the greatest contribution to Christianity by the church in America?

As an example, I would say that Germany’s greatest contribution was its part in the Reformation (i.e. Luther’s role).

Ironically, many of the Jews dealt with this in Jesus’ era on earth - thinking that they were superior because of family pedigrees versus grace.

Can’t overlook that.

Unfortunately I don’t think I’ve ever heard of Matthew Smith before.